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"Burrito de EJ25" (alexcarrillo01)
08/22/2013 at 01:24 • Filed to: None

S'pensive.

DISCUSSION (21)

promoted by the color red > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 04:01

Only about $2-$3 more per fill up vs. the "cheap" stuff...is what I tell myself after every fill up, which happens quickly when I hit the second VTEC point.

McSchmalex > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 05:02

Such is the price of glory

j.davism5 > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 05:21

I love it when Americans complain about the price of fuel. i pay 1.65-1.78 u.s per litre for premium unleaded 98 octane here in Aus. HTFU. Can't afford the juice, then you can't afford the car. Japan has higher quality fuel than both the U.S and Aus. i had to run octane booster in 98 octane to stop my 34 gtr knocking on boost at revs. So thats plus 21 bucks every fill. I knew that when i bought it. My point is, you want performance, it comes at a cost. Suck it up, or give it up.

Mattbob > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 07:34

SUPER ESSENCE!!!!!!

Party-vi > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 08:17

Doesn't matter - your engine detects knock and retards timing accordingly. They've been able to do that since the mid-80s.

Party-vi > j.davism5
08/22/2013 at 08:18

Are you sure something isn't wrong with your car? Any street vehicle should be able to run pump-gas without issues...

Sparf > j.davism5
08/22/2013 at 08:24

Fuel is similarly expensive/high octane here in Europe (Sweden). It costs me about 77 bucks to fill up the tank (from sort-of empty) on my Celica with 95 octane (and obviously a bit more if I go with 98), but I don't complain because it's pointless to. Smakar det så kostar det ( If it tastes good it's expensive , the equivalent English proverb would be If you buy quality you only cry once ).

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Party-vi
08/22/2013 at 08:31

If you have to run octane booster on 98 RON, the issue isn't the fuel...It's the car.

We don't know the MON of the fuel in question, but generally the average of a 98 RON fuel with the corresponding MON ends up being 93 AKI (R+M/2) (For the US and Canadians)

ColoradoTaco > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 08:35

Gotta pay to play. I happily get about 15-18 mpg on my S4, but gas is comparatively cheap here in the US so I can't complain. better than driving something boring.

SnoopDouggyDougg > promoted by the color red
08/22/2013 at 08:45

Exactly I don't understand why people who buy cars that are specifically designed to run on 91 and higher than complain about the price. Maybe when gas was 99 cents and premium was a dollar 1.29 I could see, but even than gas was so cheap. It has stayed .30 cents more over 87 consistently. If you can't afford .30 cents more a gallon don't buy that sporty or luxury car. I have seen so many people at pumps filling up with the "cheap" stuff in these types of cars, I feel like saying something but they are probably to dumb to understand or their cars or leased (which is why I don't think I could buy a of lease car ever besides this and people also skimping on oil changes on synthetic only cars and putting in "cheap" oil. Obviously you can't really afford that car if you need to skimp on premium. People always ask me doesn't the added cost of putting premium in your car such a drain on your wallet, my response not in the least, gas yes not the addition cost of .30 cents.

Captain_Overboost > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 09:47

Meh. We've got give cars in my family and everyone of them are designated premium only. I figure for what I paid for them AND that I bought them specifically because they're high perf vehicles, I'll feed 'em the "good stuff".

On the other hand, my wife's filled up her FX50 more times than I can count and I see the receipts later and she put plain ol' 87 octane in it. It runs fine one it and she never puts her foot into enough to matter. She's mostly a light load, low RPM (freeway driving) driver, so the car's ECU is more than capable of handling a tank of cheap gas.

I've basically quit worrying about gas prices. They're gonna be what they're gonna be and no amount of bitching I my part is going to change it (though admittedly I did love to bitch about it :-D ...). This is pretty much the same as my GT500's specifying that GD Motorcraft synthetic that's $9/quart. Cheaper cars, cheaper maintenance and operational costs... and vice versa. Just drive it and don't sweat the small stuff. *thumbsup*

Burrito de EJ25 > McSchmalex
08/22/2013 at 10:14

Word.

Burrito de EJ25 > Party-vi
08/22/2013 at 10:16

With the type of driving I do I wouldn't risk it. Using anything less is only recommended if its you're only option, and any spirited driving is discouraged while you're on the cheap-o stuff.

Burrito de EJ25 > Mattbob
08/22/2013 at 10:17

We need to start calling it super essence because that is the best thing ever.

Burrito de EJ25 > promoted by the color red
08/22/2013 at 10:19

Once boost kicks in it sort of makes the extra few bucks irrelevant. I'm with you.

Burrito de EJ25 > j.davism5
08/22/2013 at 10:20

The best we can get in California is 91. We're slumming it down here!

Party-vi > Burrito de EJ25
08/22/2013 at 10:22

It's the nature of the beast - I've got a car that gets about 10-12mpg on premium but I don't worry about it as I knew my MPG would be awful.

Burrito de EJ25 > Party-vi
08/22/2013 at 10:30

Oh, I knew full well that the running costs would be a lot higher than if I were to just settle with a Honda Fit, or whatever. Insurance, gas, maintenance. It was all going to be considerable more expensive. I just like complaining about things. I'm a drama queen.

And honestly, once I'm in boost I really don't think about. Actually, once I put that nozzle back in its slot and fire up that turbo charged flat four I immediately forget.

SnoopDouggyDougg > Party-vi
08/22/2013 at 10:38

Got to pay to play. If you can't afford the extra .30cents a gallon, you shouldn't buy a car that runs on 91+. When gas is already 4 dollars does the 30cents a gallon really matter? In a wrx if the tank was bone dry this would an extra $5.00 per fill up. Is it worth skimping on $5 dollars ever fill up for the potential damage regular does long term to a high performance engine? I don't think so. I think automotive engineers know enough to call when premium fuel is required, what would be the gain for them not to. If you simply can't afford the .30 cents per gallon and put 87 in a sporty high revving car or luxury car you shouldn't be driving it. Same with skimping on synthetic oil only cars and putting in regular oil. I can't stand people who think they can buy a car and then skimp on stupid stuff (running tires till they are bald, replacing with some pep boys crap generic, skipping oil changes, not changing other fluids, and other easy cheap preventive maintenance that in turn becomes into major problems due to lack of up keep) because in all honesty they can't afford it. I'm sure Ferraris run real well on 87.

Party-vi > SnoopDouggyDougg
08/22/2013 at 11:45

Agreed wholeheartedly - besides the extra cost of premium is made up with better gas mileage. I really do hate when people buy premium vehicles and run them into the ground because they can't afford the upkeep - it makes the used car market for these suffer :(

JasonStern911 > Burrito de EJ25
08/23/2013 at 20:41

When gas was like $1.50/gallon, $0.20 extra a gallon made a decent difference percentage wise (13%). But at $4.00/gallon, it's really not that much more (5%) and odds are that running the car at or near the octane it was intended to run at should justify that small of a price increase.